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"Cathy Putman" - 25 Dec'04: Response to Guide:
1. no dye, no peircings
3. icp is the worst group. ever
4. i'm not that stupid
7. celtic frosted flakes!
8. i have hardkore skillz, 2 tha max!
10. no i don't
11. slipknot isn't that heavy
12. and you can?
13. yes i do
14. no
15. cough*the cure*cough
16. throbbing gristle!
17. nope
18. ewwww! i don't want hin touching me
19. black metal is crazy
20. there new cd sucks
21. no i don't
22. don't smoke
23. don't dis system. tallica, zeppelin, hendrix, beatles, floyd,
stones, mc 5, stooges, pistols, clash, marley, bad brains, s.o.a.d.,
audioslave, r.a.t.m., chili peppers, janes addiction, foo fighters,
q.o.t.s.a., nirvana, probot, darkness, sabbath, husker du, afi,
yeah yeah yeahs, strokes, white stripes, streets, franz, bob
dylan, and thelonious monk
24. and you better beleive it!
25.of course i know that
28. who doesn't know who he is. no his hair isn't 'kewl'
29. they popularized funk metal
32. black metal seems more satanic
36. no life til leather
37. see 36
38. pfff, underground?
39. they have like 200 copys of 4 cds
42. too bad we have sit thru static x and drowding pool to see
a killswitch engage video
43. that goes to run-DMC actully, depending on what you call
heavy
44. staind is terrible
45. just dubya and his cabnet of dubasses
53. see 11
54. try slayer
55. my clothes aren't that ridiculous, but yea they do
56. what is farmclub.com
58. fuck fred durst
60. "em you know yo mah favorite white boy right" -50
cent
62. is that possible
63. homemade stuff meets all my clothing needs
65. thats disgusting
68. that shit is terrible
72. marylin manson is actully pretty ok
73. my math teacher is awesome, she doesn't like the government
either
77. reign is blood!
79. kittie is kinda like a female slipknot, listen to there singles
and you'll understand
81. i AM a hippie
84. pot kills brain cells
88. people are stupid, but not that stupid
89. that means 'i live you'
this is as far as i got
"mike zuniga" - 15 Dec'04: hey man i thought
you site was FUCKING great..... its some funny shit, its true..
i just dont get why thes kids take it to the ass if some one
makes fun of there music but they can make fun of other music(Hypocrit
basterds) ... also i didnt like when that kid wrote in said joey
is the best drummer ever thats so stupid its funny doing a"
bass snare, bass snare" my momcan do that it isnt special,
he aint good..... there are tons of better guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
also iver heard slipknot wheres the masks and jump suits becuase
they didnt want a image BULL SHIT FUCKING LIARS thats what made
them haveing numbers a stupid masks made those un-talented basterd
what they are.... you should have put on you 101 list iof new
metal you always alway have to detune your guitar the ferther
the better!!
PEACE - mike
"Greg the northern beast" - 12 Dec'04: Amazing
page. I'd like to congratulate you on thoroughly schooling the
mallcore kids. I just thought I'd add some abuse/comments: -Bands
such as Slayer, Venom, and Celtic Frost are infinitely heavier
than korn or slipknot. -Joey isn't as good a drummer as everyone
says he is. Neil Peart, Nick Barker, Gene Hoglan... there are
many more talented drummers. -There is new metal that isn't nu-metal,
so we don't listen to just old bands that are "past their
time"... Akercocke, Amon Amarth, Azrael, Burning Witch,
Krieg, Leviathan, Nargoroth, Xasthur, et all are younger or as
old as many nu-metal bands. Mallcore kids: don't let any of that
discourage you. Keep telling me how I need to FuCK oFf, cUz SlIpknOt
iS A haRdcORe meTHAl BaNd, bETTer thAn thAT pUssY 80s sHIt...that'll
impress me.
"Ben Rosenthal" - 12 Dec'04: I am appalled
and offended bu your site, and why is this you ask? How can you
have a nu metal guide and not mention big stupid clown shoes
(new rocks), and uber gay (oops a little bit of nu metal talk
slipped in there :D ) leather trenchcoats. A small contingent
of my mates have gone in for those big style, they look so funny
walking down the street as a group all dressed in the same clown
shoes and full length leather coats........ STOP IT YOU FOOLS,
YOU CAN'T ALL BE BLOODY NEO!!!!
Apart from that, great work and scarily accurate...... and
very amusing :D
"morgan qasabian" - 06 Dec'04: mallcore kids
are fools! Great read! - Infernal Hails my metal brother!
To all of you heavy pop fans (yes Nu-Metal is not metal but is
in fact pop), old -school metal? We don't just listen to 80s
metal, metal in all of its forms is still going strong and it
will continue to live, for as log as there are people with instrumental
skill, metal will never die!
Through the years there have been many things that have tried
to kill heavy metal some of these include, glam, hair metal,
grunge and more recently "nu-metal". What's so metal
about nu-metal? Nothing at all! You know what? We have always
beaten these foes, look at nu-metal, it is dieing/dead!
Joey Jordinson a good drummer? I don't like him I find him repetitive
and boring, good drummers are, Mike Protnoy, Hellhammer, Trym,
Thomas Stauch, Buddy Rich(yes I know he's jazz, but he kicks
arse), the drummer from Decapitated(forget his name) and there
are many other drummers who are better than the poser Joey Jordinson.
Up the Irons, Fly the Flag, Raise those Hrons, Black Metal Ist
Krieg, Thrash 'Til Death and last but not least \m/ STAY METAL
\m/
When I was reading the 101 rules for Death Metal, I was thinking
hey this is just like the 101 rules for Black Metal, Then I saw
this, 80. copy the 101 rules for blackmetal for ideas.
<lissaofgaia@sbcglobal.net> - 05 Dec'04: slipknot
feedback- hey just wanted to say i liked what ya had to say about
the nu metal bands. All the negative feedback ya get is obviously
from ignorant young pop cultured kids who wouldn't know good
music if it kicked the shit outta them. Plus im from cleveland
and it's nice to know that other people know that slipknot pretty
much jocked off Mushroomheads "look" to a T. even when
mushroomhead tried to change it with the black jump suits and
arm bands. Aside from that i gave their music a chance and listened
to it. I could sit bare assed on a symbol, farting and make a
better sound than that BS.
One more thing, you can ask Corey Talor what he thinks about
Cleveland and Mushroomhead. He prolly wont say anything seeing
as how he only got upset when you metioned MUSHROOMHEAD's name.
He can tell you about the fight at one of there first shows in
cleveland where shroom fans went and did everything from : sitting
in the middle of the floor so no one would pit, to throwing shroom
flyers, to holding up banners telling them to go home, to actually
getting into a fight with the band members for throwing shit
at em. One of em even got pepper sprayed for taking a swing at
a cop .lol. I know you remember that Corey! You guys fight about
as good as you ply intruments. and all you shit talkin fans actin
hard can eat me cause you are all nu metal scrubs. STAY THE FUCK
OUTTA CLEVELAND!! and find another band to jock your look off
of.
<autumnofashes@fuse.net> - 18 Nov'04: I would
just like to congratulate you. You've were successfully able
to get someone to respond to you and pretend to be a member of
Slipknot. I look at it this way, if Sid honestly did write that
E-Mail...he needs to return to school...it's spelled MORON not
MORAN...
"Brandan Kinney" - 18 Nov'04: i understand
that nu-metal sux. man do i hate nu-metal and there moronic trailer
park followings, but there was one thing you said, and i'm probably
being over sensitve, which i'm sure i am, but the thing about
piercings. i take body modification very seriously, cheerleaders
get as many piercings as korn kidz, cheerleaders and aberbitches
get more than korn kidz, and nu-metal fags. everybody gets piercings,
look at your mom. just please, all i'm asking is don't dumb down
piercings cuz nu-metal fags are retarded.
interfector@linux8.com - 11 Nov'04: I really don't
understand the old school rockers. I don't like their style but
I have nothing against it; even me, a nu-metal fan, began listening
to old school rock and I liked it partially. So why do you old-metal
fans have so much against us, can't you just respect our passion
the way we respect yours. You are now to deep into this s@@t
to recognise that many nu-metal bans actually have good lyrics
and many old-metal bands have s@@@y lyrics. It's a matter of
perspective. You could have made fun of other genres that are
much, much more worse.
P.S. 1 : Your guide is really funny and there are a lot of
parts which are actually true and some of this true facts are
not OK for us, but hey! that's
life, we, nu-metal fans, don't want to be so perfect!
P.S. 2: Try making 101 rules of old-school-metal, see what
can you come up with! :)
"Raine Lionheart" - 10 Nov'04: Awesome guide.
I actually scored a few points on it, whoopdie-doo. I guess I
aren't metal enough.
And now for the not-so-humorous commentary. Sorry to bore
you.
I'm no fan of nu-metal. I do like a few songs by a few of
the bands (Linkin Park has some excellent stuff). Then again,
I don't consider them metal in any sense of the word. The thing
that I'm sick of is how some metallers claim that to be a true
metal fan, you must eat, breathe, sleep, live and die metal.
All right, I do that. But to say that I'm not allowed to listen
to any other genre and still call myself a metalhead? That's
a line. My top favorite metal bands are Iced Earth, Blind Guardian,
Iron Maiden, Immortal, Burzum and Evergrey. My top favorite bands
period are Iced Earth, Blind Guardian, Iron Maiden, Vertical
Horizon, Silverchair and Our Lady Peace.
Uh, yeah, pretty much no relevance to the site, but it's something
that gets to me.
Next thing. Now don't get me wrong, the guide is hilarious.
But some of the comments I saw at the bottom made me go "...
Fuck, it hurts to be associated with those people." Yeah,
the site is poking fun at Slipknot and the like, but how much
more "_______ are cocksuckers" must we endure? It's
the same thing mallcorers do, it's on the list. Turnabout may
be fair play, but come on. Why badmouth a band for no reason?
So yeah, that's my opinion... I've got a feeling I'm gonna
be flamebombed after this. Thanks again for the laughs.
Adrian Zaremba <heeroyuy@wp.pl> - 6 Nov'04: Well,
first off although I do find your guide pretty funny I hope I
think you're a little close-minded about your views on music.
I mean I love all genres of music not just metal, which leads
me to feel that there is qualities in each genre that can be
appreciated. I mean it's fun to poke at anything I mean i could
make fun of a band I like all day if I wanted to, no one's perfect.
I can think of plenty of jokes about Korn and Metallica right
of the top of my head. To say, however, that nu-metal does not
have any redeeming qualities is hugely igorant. I mean I love
Metallica and I can't get enough of them, however, Linkin Park
is by far a talented group of muscians. Not only can they make
music that really lyrically touches a lot of teens, but they
can also produce a solid original sound that has some very original
chords and combinations of instruments, I mean not only a turn-table
and mc but also a piano.
They're songs have a unique sound that is shaped in a intelligent
and complicated way. Every band has some good points. You may
think I have a bias towards nu-metal, however, I try to look
at everything as objectively as possible to the point of where
even though Linkin Park if my favorite band I know that old metal
started it all and those musicians (as well as some nu ones)
are geniueses. As I've previously stated I love all types of
music, which includes not only Metal but Hard Rock, Techno, Dance,
Rap, Pop, and even the oh so despised country. I think too many
of you old metal and some nu-metal fans are too subjective and
you need to spread your musical intrests a little farther. I
mean there's so much music in the world, don't center yourself
on just one.
There really is good in all types of music. Last pet pieve
I have is that most of the nu-metal bands that are refrenced
are huge ones that
are always in the mainstream. There are plenty of good metal
bands that are almost never aired and have a great unique sound
that hardly fit any of your "nu-metal stereotypes,"
which include Spineshank, Ill Nino, 40 Below Summer, and Skrape.
-- Adrian Zaremba
Glen Barrett <glnb720@yahoo.com - 5 Nov'04: Just
wanna say that this Nu Metal Guide is perfect for all the posers
to read, and I hope they've all read it by now, lol. I especially
love the Mall-core section, because I see so many of those types
of kids around here, its hilarious...you ask them, "Hey,
what's your favorite metal bands?" and they reply with,
"Korn, Trapt, Limp Bizkit, etc..." lol...its pathetic.
Anyways, I'd like to say something to whoever added this to the
comment area...
"5. Joey "1" Jordison - Slipkot's (sic) and excellent
drummer. Who the hell said Joey has no talent, speed, or rythm?
I would like to meet you and slap you with the harsh and cruel
terms of reality! Wake up, my friend. Joey will never ever be
beaten by ANY drummer in ANY band! EVER! My dad (you know how
parents are) absolutely despises the music I listen to! I don't
understand it, but, hey. . . I accept it. HOWEVER, he has told
me - my dad is a drummer himself - that he has never seen a better
drummer, or faster, than Joey 1" Jordison. This is coming
from a guy who doesn't even like the band. I do reckon that is
saying a lot!"
Heh, wow do you have a lot to hear...whoever you are. First of
all, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard from a band, putting
numbers between their names...jesus. Joey "1" Jordison....why
can't it just be Joey Jordison?? its not like he's special in
any way...oh wait...I forgot, he wears a mask that he copied
from something else...i'll letcha guess what is is, lol. Ok anyways,
back to the drumming thing. Joey from Slipknot is a good drummer...but
he's DEFINATELY not the best my friend, lol, I guess you just
follow along with MTV huh? Go by what Carson Daly says, lol.
I can name plenty of bands that have way better drummers...Children
of Bodom, Arsis, Cryptopsy, Arch Enemy, Rush, Chimaira, Soilwork,
Slayer....the list goes on and on. I guess your dad must've seen
a lot of jazz concerts or somethin, cuz I don't know what he's
talkin about, "Never seen a faster drummer". I totally
agree with whoever said, "Why does Slipknot need 9 people
to make all that noise, when a baby can do it on trash cans?"
LOL that is classic right there, and so true. I actually liked
their first album, but they just went totally downhill as the
albums were being made...just like Metallica, lol.
Joe Marta - 23 Oct 04: Personally, the first few paragraphs
were pretty funny, but after that it got pretty dumb, to me at
least. Near all of the anti-nu metal rants have been by people
who like 80's to early 90's metal. Well guess what? I like Nu-Metal
AND 80's to 90's rock, I like all metal.
Most people who have posted anti nu metal articles ALL suffer
one MAJOR fallacy in their logical thinking. - Era. - I am accused
of "not knowing" all sorts of these bands which, I
dont know of. But the fallacy is, they expect our generation
to know all of these bands that have fallen from view. Tell me,
how is it fair to expect that?
They always say "Oh the teeney boppers love the Nu Metal"
You know why? It hasnt been AROUND long enough for us to be 30
or 40. Its a simple math problem. How about I ask these metalheads
to list off alot of obscure Disco bands which never made it big?
The ones that started the chain leading to disco? That would
be complete idiocy as that was before their time, thusly they
have no reason to be expected to know them.
Another weak arguement is that Nu Metals "shelf life
is overdue". Now please tell me, what type of music has
lasted mainstream for more than a decade or a decade and a 1/2.
Your metal is dead in the mainstream eyes. Its shelf life long
expired. Nu Metal will die to, NO music will go on mainstream
forever.
Also, to do some friendly ripping on "old" metal,
you metalheads make such a raucus about "No Solos".
I almost NEVER hear a musical solo, its just "C form, in
D flat, to A form in C flat switch from Pentatonic to major and
back again." Most solos ruin the songs because the dont
flow AT ALL. Now if they have a good solo, in the right key,
with TIMING and not just a flow of notes it sounds awesome. IE.
Metallica and Ozzy Osbourne ect. (I like the one in No More Tears)
I would appreciate it greatly if you put this on your site,
in the humor section, as a two sided debate is tons more fun
than preaching to the like minded. If you do put this on your
site, could you please withold my email adress, I dont want to
get spam from crawlers that might find my adress. Thanks!
"The Boy With No Name Is Here" - 22 Oct 04:
tbh, its just another type of cheese, there is cheese for all
genres now... I went to an "alternative" night at a
club, for the first time to that one, they played papa roach,
linkin park ... etc, and guess what, britney ! and christan aguilera
!
is that not enough evidence? they wouldn't play opeth :( <
just thought u'd be interested, i didn't read nething about what
gets played at clubs ....
tho then again, u wudn't be able to dance to the dreadful hours
.... really, but perhaps children of bodom.... mmn. u shud do
a guide, to differentiate real and fake altern nights
"zach bowen" - 18 Oct 04: I just read your
nu-metal guide and its funny altho i do like a bunch of nu-metal
bands it was nice to see some humor nice job man!
"Alex Sullivan" - 14 Oct 04: Alright I just
read your 101 or so ways to Form a new metal band. Before I respond,
I must tell you im big into that pop
nu metal stuff (KoRn, ((Ya im that much of a dork, i spell korn
that way)), Mudvayne and System.)
Dont delete this *hate* email yet, Im not gonna bash you
about your site
I thought that was one of the funniest things ive ever read.
Damn that was just good stuff. At first i was somewhat annoyed,
but then i saw the genius in it-ALL OF IT IS TRUE! Im still into
that stuff, but damn that was funny. Dont ever take down that
site my friend. Good stuff there.
Yours truly, Fony Nu metal fan #4803570835.4
"Camilo Galeano" - 12 Oct 04: How I hate
'Nu-Metal'! Well done! A big Hail to the person who wrote this!
Metal is the most varied music ever (and TRUE rock music), the
most original and imaginative. When have you heard of a 'Progressive
Nu Metal' band? Or 'Symphonic Nu-Metal'? That will never be,
because nu-metal WILL DIE!!!!! Bands like Linkin Park and Slipknot
are totally talentless. My brother listens to this Nu Metal crap
and i have never heard a riff (something nu-metal kids are not
familiar with) in a single song! Why do Slipknot need 9 people
to make all that noise when all that can be done by a baby hitting
cans? I'm so glad most real Metal is underground, that was it
keeps its musical beauty and purity!
PerSebDin@aol.com - 29 Sep 04: Hi - I just read all
of those rules and i have to say there extremely funny, but i,m
15 Years old live in Germany (altough i was born in California)
and none of those "Mallcore" rules fit for me or any
of my friends.
Well what i really wanted to say with this mail is that young
Metalheads arent all that fucked up, when i hear Slayer i think
of Show no Mercy, South of Heaven and Reign in Blood; I (and
most other Metalheads i know) have all Albums from Maiden, Sabbath,
Priest, AC/DC, Metallicas Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightning and
And Justice for All, all Slayer except Undisputed Attitude and
after; we dont paint our hair and we let it grow naturaly as
long as it gets!!!!
Black Metal ist Krieg!!! Thrash 'Till Death!!! - Hobie
Dead Roses - 25 Sep 04: Hello.
I have read your guide about nu-metal stuff, and i think that
you have been unfair at some accounts. First of all, I wouldn't
even call Linkin Park nu metal. They're just alt-rock. Nothing
new about them. Second, I do believe Slipknot is shit, but Corey
Taylor is a wasted talent (he's too good for slipknot) ad so
is Joey Jordison, whom you have underestimated. The other 7 people
in the band are just bystanders, with no ability. Third, Korn
are not ripoffs. They are original, they have an unique sound.
Yeah, they didn't invent the 7string, and they didn't revitalize
metal. But they don'tt claim to be metal. Also, not every 7-string
user is shit. Petrucci (who will beat the hell out of any guitarist
you could mention) currently uses a 7-string, and Satriani used
to use one too, and he is just awesome. Last, Ryan from Mudvayne
kicks ass. See him live. These were the facts.
My personal opinion is that "tr00 metal headz" who
just can't get on with the flow of nu (NEW) metal, just classify
anything they don't like as nu-metal. You like old-sepultura?
(I do) Sorry to say, they are dead. Move on. You like Judas priest?
(I don't) they don'T exist anymore. MOVE ON! When you lose a
friend, you grieve for a while, then accept the loss and move
on. Why can't you act the same way with music? The world is becoming
a pile of shit, and cultural degeneration is a fact. Movies are
getting unoriginal. So is the new music. But you live in the
same world with them, accept it and move on, for whatever being
you worship's sake!
Also, bands need money to survive. It's survival instinct when
they use publicity to be rich. Don'T blame them. If you had the
same opportunity, I'm sure you would use it.
Which I think you already did. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but those
three e-mails from Slipknot seem like phonies just to attract
attention to your site. (If that is true, I am ashamed to be
mailing you and giving yu more popularity.) You yourself are
trying to say slipknot are arrogant bastards, which is true,
they would never hang around your site.
My main language is not English, so forgive me if my words sound
strange.
I am not a nu-metalist, I just listen to it sometimes, and it
makes me feel good. Live with today's fucked up world, or die
with the past. Since I'm young, i choose the first. Your articles
clearly state which one you have chosen.
Rest in Peace, with your music.
I too, am sad abot losing old metal, but nothing can be done.
I look forward to hearing from you, and please correct me if
I'm wrong about anything. -N
"David Bulpin" - 15 Sep 04: yea I just read
through and some pretty funny stuff.. and
for those arguing over slipknot and SOAD being nu metal..truth
is they are.. I like SOAD yea.. it's about
as far as I would step into the genre tho.. Pantera
were hardcore rather than nu metal tho I don't claim they were totally original ;)
I once had some guy on the net trying to tell me that he loved
all the Metallica albums up until St anger..yea
and he thought that Load was one
of their best albums..*sigh*..I could argue the cause for st
anger but I can't be assed and it's not
really relevent ;p
"Matt Danson" - 11 Sep 04: hey dude. whats
hapnin?
now, hehe....first things first. im a mental nu metal fan, but
thats not to say im only into the genre, id like to think my
music taste is pretty broad.
few questions, how does where an album is sold determine how
the album sounds? i guess im unsure what questions to ask here,
but, could you just give me a bit of a rundown on your drama's
with nu-metal?
whatever, i look forward to a "FUCKING INTENSE" reply.
chelli wagnon - 08 Sep 04: Hey, Just wanted to say
thats some funny shit on your website and whoever wrote the 131
ways to tell your a mallcorekid sounds like my type. Oh i mean
hes sounds KewL or kEwL or KeWl or whatever.
LoVe ThE SitE
P.s. Hope i dont get bashed for all my spelling errors and pronucication
errors heh since so many people just have to have everything
perfect.
"Joanna Garfield" <clara> - 05 Sep 04:
dude, at first it woz funny but towards the end it sort of got
very boring and offensive. Joey Jordison is a amazing drummer
and just cause you cant play as fast or have the rythm that he
has there is no need 2 go slagging him off. Slipknot are a amazingly
talented band and only wear masks 2 reach the fans not through
looks but through there music.
"Krof" <krofinzki@telia.com> - 28 Aug 04:
feedback on numetal guide - I really like Slipknot, And I thought
this parody was great!
Message to all of those who took it personal: Change your
life, listen to your mom. Please. / Krof
"Karl Turnor" - 26 Aug 04: I have only resontly
got into the nu metal gonra with Slipknot but i'v got to say
that thry are one sic fucken kick ass band and this is on Australian
who will always listen to them as long as they are around so
keep the shit up u fucken sic mutterfucker
kendra baby - 20 Aug 04: This has to be one of the
most entertaining websites I have been to in a while. I loved
every part of it, especially the "131 Ways to Tell You're
a Mallcore Kid." And it's sad to be able to spot these kids
when your at the mall, and even more when you work at Hot Topic
like I do.
"Greg" <greg@flana.com> - 19 Aug 04:
better drumer then joey fagson
QUOTE: Wake up, my friend. Joey will never ever be
beaten by ANY drummer in ANY band! EVER! My dad (you know how
parents are) absolutely despises the music I listen to! I don't
understand it, but, hey. . . I accept it. HOWEVER, he has told
me - my dad is a drummer himself - that he has never seen a better
drummer, or faster, than Joey 1" Jordison.
The drummer from Vital Remains is far superior then the whole
band of slipknot, They are from RI, and I have seen them this
past year and when he plays double bass its 587585340507 times
faster then I have ever heard a person play. He also could out
play any of the members of slipknot on guitar seeing thats
the original instrument he use to play and only took up drums
to start a band.
"Diahanne" <damason@fuse.net> - 18 Aug
04: damn the rules of nu metal have sparked a lot of controversy
haven't they. what a lot of these nu-metal fans dont acknowledge
is that sometimes a good band can stand the test of time. Iron
Maiden for example, they're an amazing band, and that's why people
still love them. The idea of nu metal just being the inevitable
result of change is just stupid and that's the mindset that MTV
and the radio wants these kids to have. they also try to disguise
nu metal bands as sub pop, as to say that the people that listen
to these bands are cool because they're less popular. it's just
another method of control, another bandwagon appeal to those
who reject the teeny bop britney spears shit. it's all just about
marketing, and nu metal kids are just slaves to MTV and Hot Topic
because they'll blindly take whatever is fed to them. Now what
makes them different from any other greedy corporation? Different
marketing. They just try to sell to different crowds of people.
That's their plan of success. Unfortunately it has worked.
Now with all this, I'm assuming that Nu Metal refers to the talentless
crap of bands like Slipknot, Linkin Park, etc., because new music
is produced every day, and that doesn't necessarily make it bad.
I am a fan of old music and new music alike. I like all genres
of music except for nu metal. well i dont like that 80s glam
shit either. but some 80s metal is good like maiden, priest,
slayer. being a fan of old music doesnt make you some old 45-55
yr old loser. IM FOURTEEN, for fucks sake. I love old metal.
Once again, i think what the new record labels, MTV, etc, are
trying to tell all these nu metal kids is that old isn't cool,
new is cool. but what is cool? who can tell you what cool is?
what these corporations are trying to tell these kids is that
"we can tell you what's cool". so you see, nu metal
is just pop in disguise, like it or not. They're both talentless
(that's right, i said it, if you'd like to prove me wrong, my
email is stated above), they're both marketed to the youth by
million-dollar-a-year-corporations.
P.S. Hot Topic (aka the haven for new metal kids) is owned by
the gap!!
"AARON DELGADO" <aadbaez@hotmail.com>-
16 Aug 04: PRIMERO QUE TODO SOY MEXICANO, Y EMPECE ESCUCHANDO
MUSICA DE KORN, LIMP BIZKIT, LINKIN PARK, STATIC-X, SYSTEM OF
A DOWN, ETC, Y DESPUES DE ESO ME ENTERE QUE A ESA MUCIA SE LE
LLAMA "NU-METAL" (ALGO QUE YO CASI NO USO) CREO QUE
TODO GENERO TIENE SUS COSAS PROPIAS Y CLICHES ASI COMO EL "NU-METAL"
TENGO UNA DUDA, ¿POR QUE NO PONEN SUS GUSTOS MUSICALES
USTEDES CREADORES DE ESTA WEB?, YO QUIERO SABER PARA DECIRLES
LOS CLICHES DE LAS BANDAS QUE A USTEDES LES GUSTAN. ADIOS
"Hassy" <happyendtrails@hotmail.com> -
14 Aug 04: tell me this - who r your fav. bands ????
your sites funny haha but how dare you put soad and slipknot
with those pukes mainly soad there a politics band let me guess
you suport Bush don't you.
etsgersgter gregergeg <venomlord503@yahoo.com> -
13 Aug 04: dude ur a poser real metalheads dun go around
making fun of otha metal to try to be kool nu metal mite not
be popular among old skool but its the new era of metal it has
contributed a lot to the metal scene so u should be damn proud
of it and nu metal isnt mainstream radio or tv barely plays nu
metal and slipknot isnt mainstream either slipknots r basically
banned from the media because of the EXTREME HEAVY instruments
and lyrics with curses i listen to maiden, sabbath, metallica,
dimmu borgir, cradle of filth, obituary, cannibal corpse, morbid
angel, mayhem, ac/dc but i also listen to slipknot, chimaira,
fear factory, static-x, disturbed because nu metal is great but
u poser tryes to be kool by only sticking with 1 genre of music
shouldnt u be at hottopic instead of making this site
Brian Wynn <theevilknight1991@yahoo.com> - 06 Aug
04: what the fuck im 13 and this place sux ive seen better
gay sites than this one who are you to make fun of slipknot and
make a ENTIRE website about how much the genre sux you guys are
gay burn in hell fuckers
"Patxy m /" <patxy_031072@hotmail.com>
- 30 Jul 04: I just wanna say ONE thing:
Linkin Park, Korn,
Limp Bizkit and Ill Nino, Pod,
Drowning pool, taproot (eeuuhhh!!!)
All of them are fucking crap, cocksucker numetal bands (except
for Deftones, System of a down, Machine Head and Fear Factory....=P....they
are the exception to me).
"Kathy klym" <kklym@telusplanet.net> -
18 Jul 04: This site is wicked, but im listening to korns
debut right, but im laughing at this site, you guys make some
pretty good points. "Nu" Metal gets rehashed very badly,
but i personally think it serves its place. If metal bands were
still singing about mechanix and how evil has no boundires, how
seriously would we take it. It was cool for back then but if
people were still doing it in 1999 im pretty sure majorty of
music fans in general would say seven words "what the fuck
is this dumb shit?". Metal still needed to be taken sersiouly,
it still had to concern parents , it still had to have enough
edge to be able to put the middle of the finger to, and it makes
sence that it turned out the way it did. You oviously cant compare
REAL new metal bands like opeth dimmu bogir (what ever real new
metal may be in you opinion) to Korn or Spineshank, it dosent
logically make sence. There about complety different things but
it all has the want to heavy, and that in my opinion makes it
all metal.
alex farr <bitterpill567@yahoo.com> - 17 Jul 04:
You actually think that making a website about this one genre
that u hate so much will actually stop us kids who like it from
listening to it? i find it funny how u hate htis music but you
actually will spend the time to make this whole site and might
i say its pretty lengthy. so that means you might have spent
a while on this hate site. if u hate it so much, then just ignore
the whole genre and go on with your life. i hate death metal
but i have spent my life hating it and makinga website about
it. i have a feeling your type of metal was supposed to be the
next big thing but, nu-metal came and was actually better then
it so it got to hte media faster. and i would listen to those
look-at-me-i-wear-really-tight-clothes-and-it-doesnt-bother-my-penis-kus-i-dont-have-any-and-i-scream-all-the-time-kus-i-cant-actually-sing!
so please go fucking listen to your music and quit bashing mine
"Shane Marsili" <forgottenxgod@hotmail.com>
- 14 Jul 04: Everyone has their own opinions. Perfectly fine.
Music in general should be about your feelings at the time. If
you are an anti-government type, then get out an do something
about it! Do you honestly think that by listening to the music
you are doing anything? You can walk around with all types of
anti-American slogans and yet it does nothing unless you get
involved with others (not just to trash your local government
building, which will do nothing more than cause more resentment
of your views) who will begin a move to do something about it.
Music is for entertainment. It should be no other source, aside
from a vent at times. Because you don't like Good Charolette
doesn't mean anything. Also because they have no musical talent
means nothing either. People like them because they like the
sound. Fuck lyrics. Some songs are great with lyrics, keeps it
all flowing. Otherwise most songs would be more about the sound.
Mind you, because they have no musical talent means nothing of
how others will hear their music. Why do you think people listen
to bands such as Staind? Because they just like how it flows.
I listen to every genre of music. I encourage others to as well.
If you are depressed, listen to music that makes you feel better
or music that is related to your mood. So what if people like
Nu-Metal? So what if the bands have no talent? So what if you
dislike it? Quite frankly, I don't give a shit. I'll go back
to listening to Deicide, then Eminem, then Journey, and last
I'll jump to Joan Jett. It makes people happy, so shut your fucking
trap asshole. = )
"Gina & Demetre" <rattus1@cox.net>
- 13 Jul 04: up the irons!!! -- There is life!!!!
Ive been into music(punk/metal) since '87(12yrs of age). And
I'll tell ya, this nu "metal" infiltration is a plague.
anyhow, i dig all you had to say and wish decapitation and mutilation
to all posers!! kids no nothing of Axegrinder, Doom, Amebix,
Disorder, Discharge, Sore Throat, Anti Cimex, or groups like
Tu Carne, C.S.S.O., Dead Infection, Sublime Cadaveric Decomposition
ect....
PS- southern california is much to be desired.
PPS- Whitehouse/Genocide Organ/Con-Dom/Grey Wolves are GO!!
"Ryan ."
<syl083@hotmail.com> - 10 Jul 04: G'day. This is re
your Chris Barnes comment on your nu-metal guide. Yeah,
I may sound like an idiot saying this, but I always like broadening
my metal knowledge: if Chris Barnes doesn't have a deep voice,
then who does? I admit, my metal knowledge is pretty shitty.
I've only heard of about 50 metal bands, and I've only really
listened to about 40 odd. So yeah, I'm a metal noob.
You're not taking the piss out of Cannibal Corpse are you?
The new George Fisher stuff may be a steaming pile of feces (compared
to the older stuff) but what about The Bleeding, Eaten Back To
Life etc. Otherwsie, great site. Cheers if you reply back with
some names of some bands with deeper vocals than Barnsie's.
"Matt Beams"
<mb_exhumed@hotmail.com> - 8 Jul 04: Whoah, I'm pretty
sure everyone on this site who responded is in way over their
head. Let me give you an example: "Knocking Slipknot, eh?
Wow! That's a tough one! I didn't know it was even possible.
Slipknot is one of those rare popular bands out there who actually
have original sounds, looks, lyircs, attitudes, and they plain
just don't give a shit who judges them, to be quite honest. I
LOVE Slipknot for what/who they are! You need to recognize that
knocking a band is NOT going to make them disappear, but it will
piss you off in the end b/c all you are doing is wasting your
pitiful a pathetic breath on your opinion which in no way is
relevant to anything about a band. It is of non-importance, and
your opinion shall stay that way."
A: "Slipknot is one of those rare popular bands out there
who actually have original sounds, looks, lyircs, attitudes,
and they plain just don't give a shit who judges them, to be
quite honest"
Now the fact of the matter is their not original. Record labels
shit out bands like these because their looking for a quick buck.
There not expecting them to last longer than 2 singles if any.
That's why they spend very little money on advertising and that's
why there is so few but oh too many nu-metal bands, So next time
you think a band is original take into account the 1000's of
similiar bands record labels listen to that look, act, and sound
the same but decide not to take a chance on.
"your pitiful a pathetic breath on your opinion which
in no way is relevant
to anything about a band. It is of non-importance, and your opinion
shall stay that way."
Who the fuck do you think you are? Everyone has the right
to their own opinion! Plus he fucking warned you before read
the fucking parody. Go jump in a grinder with hitler!
Joey "1" Jordison - Slipkot's (sic) and excellent
drummer. Who the hell said Joey has no talent, speed, or rythm?
I would like to meet you and slap you with the harsh and cruel
terms of reality! Wake up, my friend. Joey will never ever be
beaten by ANY drummer in ANY band! EVER! My dad (you know how
parents are) absolutely despises the music I listen to! I don't
understand it, but, hey. . . I accept it. HOWEVER, he has told
me - my dad is a drummer himself - that he has never seen a better
drummer, or faster, than Joey 1" Jordison. This is coming
from a guy who doesn't even like the band. I do reckon that is
saying a lot!
I agree with you Joey Jordison is a good drummer but, I do
think you, "My friend" are fucking retarded. If I'm
reading right your telling me "Joey will never ever be beaten
by ANY drummer in ANY band! EVER!" Those are pretty strong
words don't you think? Because I don't even have to name a drummer
that's better than him. I can tell you right NOW that any drummer
in the category of just Gore Metal alone could desecrate his
ass, and as far as your father is concerned you must have been
masturbating with fat cock up your as while you were deepthroating
a sword to not realize that his opinion means absolutly nothing.
I'm sorry it's too late to to keep making fun of these nu-metal
kids I got a show to fuckin' do tommorow and then it's back home
to the US.
Sincerly Matt Beams
Exhumed©
P.S. Cradle Of Filth WAS cool until Damnation Of A Day...
who the fuck joins sony? Fuckin Danny man the kid's a fucking
woman.
a-musical-genious@xyberx.cjb.net
- 6 Jul 04: about nu-metal lists - ive noticed that you've
made several ass kissing remarks to kittie, implying they're
not nu-metal, it is a fact....nu-metalist dont solo, mostly for
a lack of skill....kittie doesnt solo, we know what kittie is,
and son of a @#$% i actually like them. fearfactory is not nu-metal,
it was an industrial(electronica)/metal mesh. korn, limp, coalchamber..all
nu metal. slipknot new metal?? i wouldnt know whether or not
to agree. most of what is called nu-metal is actually called
rapcore you dumbass. slipknot is not rapcore. PANTERA is not
nu-metal, PANTERA is heavy metal plain and simple. and if you
think they are nu metal becouse they jumped off the glam bandwagon
then you are an ass. and now that we're talking about southern
type things....people from texas say y'all and the word y'all
is older than yer stoned fathers electric washed jeans. the sameb
ones he wore when your mom turned him down for prom. i bet those
of you who dont like nu metal listen to old metal, and most of
you who listen to old metal probably listened to glam and cock
rock, you hypocrits. you listened to master of puppets with yer
friends ! and wasp in your rooms so you wouldnt get yer assess
kicked for cock rockin, and you were getting bored chillen in
public jamming to anthrax cuz you had your new rush album at
home. and it doesnt matter how many x's i got in my nick, cuz
i know you got more equivelant in bands. so have fun playing
your redneck bars, and grills where everyone is 45-55 and cant
headbang anymore cuz the arthritus is to painfull..or if they
can even hear anymore
matt smith <structural_defect01@yahoo.com>
- 3 Jul 04: All you people dissing Nu-Metal need to get over
it, Jealousy will kill you..you mention all these "real"
heavy metal bands. like for instance iron maiden lol, well keep
sitting there on your old ass couch with your long ass hair and
goetee, faded tattoos and tight ass jeans with holes in the knees
and keep dissing on nu-metal. becouse it aint going anywhere
anytime soon...this isnt the late 80's or even the early 90's
its 2004 times have changed and so has music, if you dont like
it then dont listen to it, you have so much to say about it becouse
its over shadowing your genre of music, like i said jealousy
will kill you, i can buy diecide at best buy or any mall around
here right next to the slipknot is diecide considerd mallcore?
lets talk about deicide for a second there not nu-metal..but
they suck just like all death metal music..lets sing i mean grawl
about burning bibles yippy sounds fun and exciting, yea right..thats
just retarded where is there any melody in death metal? u guys
bash nu metal, only becouse your stuck in the past and are afraid
of change. its 2004 not 1984
Ernesto VanBeelerberg
<ltd_explorer86@yahoo.com> - 27 Jun 04: I have a huge
problem with people pushing their opinions on others with out
having any facts or evidence to back them up. I was wondering,
how can you say "666" is not satanic? It most absolutely
is! Also, Chimaira was on Farmclub a long time ago and they are
ANYTHING but 'mallcore'. But in your defence...Joey Jordison
isn't really THAT good. Don't get me wrong, he's not bad but
he is sloppy. It's the dumbest shit EVER to say that he's the
best there is. My best friend (who is 16) is better than Joey.
Joey is just fast, but doesn't show much technique. I've seen
a video of a 12 year old who is one of the BEST drummers I'VE
ever seen. He was Tony Royster's son, look it up, he's CRAZY!
I would attach it but it's too big (20.6 MB).But I've ranted
enough. By the list I'm not 'mallcore' anyway.
"Alex Ma"
<leeran555@hotmail.com> - 15 Jun 04: Hi, I'm just another
fan of Alternative Rock Review. I've been going to the
site on and off for years now. Great stuff, man. I was just looking
at the Nu-Metal Guide section and thought that a lot of the stuff
that the offended, and the stuff that you said was agonizingly
hilarious. I personally wish that more rock bands would try to
sing these days instead of scream and play melodies instead of
playing crummy power chords. This is a bold statement, but the
state of rock today is much worse than the state of rap and hip-hop.
I just hope we have another '90s rock explosion and find some
of the same talents like Soundgarden and Alice in Chains. Seems
like all the greatest rock bands today have been either dismantled
or on an extended hiatus. Maybe I'm just a young teenager whose
tired of people who whine about how crummy there life is. Ay,
give me a "Give It Away" or "Tonight, Tonight"
or "Sleep Now in the Fire". I'd really like to here
some good guitar melodies and good lyrics again. Doesn't anyone
know how to rhyme anymore? Sorry for the long post bud, but I
love your site. Keep up the good work.
Mike Dotson <snorlaxmd@yahoo.com>
- 11 Jun 04: I couldn't resist. I just had to say something.
When I first started junior high, I liked Nü Metal.
I didn't think it was metal, though. Then I heard the bands start
calling themselves metal. Then, I found out they all sounded
the same. The exact same. I'm no big music critic or anything,
but I do like to point out . . . faults. ;) Let me divulge that
Nü Metal has plenty of faults. For one thing, where
in the hell--the bloody, frickin' hell--is the musicianship?
It's like these guys hardly can write a frickin' song, here!
I hear the same stuff over and over and over again. It gets tiresome,
like the boy bands did. I know, all you mallcore people, I'm
comparing Nü Metal to boy bands, but there's a reason.
I've realized that all it is is POP. Pure and simple. P-O-P,
pop. It's just a trend. Rock has had trends, including actual
metal. People follow the trends to get popularity, money, sex,
etc. That's all. There are more important things in life to most
people than music, and I think the writer of the 131 mallcore
guidelines should get over that fact and just face it; not everyone
cares that much about music. Sorry. :(
Anyway, yes, I've heard it all before. Everyone says, "Well,
rock is changing!" I know, I know; rock can never fully
recover from grunge. For a while, we had post-grunge to keep
it in check. We don't have that as much nowadays, though. All
I have to say is if you don't think Korn is copying off other
bands, I suggest you look high and low for a band called Helmet.
Yes, Helmet. Their album, Betty. Very short-lived band, but I
think you'll get what I mean after you listen to the album. I
happen to like metal more than this utter pop nonsense. It has
even spread, this Nü Metal, into the PUNK spectrum.
That's what really ticks me off because I liked punk bands like
The Circle Jerks, Bad Brains, Black Flag, etc., before I even
liked metal (OK, whether you believe that or not is a different
story, but still, I attest to it. :P)! Anyway, the scourge of
Nü Metal is strong, and now Blink-182 and Simple Plan
have taken up its banner to ensure its survival. However, Nü
Metal is a TREND! Do we still eat glass for fun, like they did
in the '20s? I don't really think we do, do we? It was just a
trend, people! Let people have their trends, and get over it;
that's their problem, not ours. Of course, we can make them more
aware of their surroundings.
For instance, a friend of mine likes AFI, but he's only been
exposed to Sing the Sorrow. I buy him their older stuff, back
when they were still just staples of the California hardcore.
(I know this has nothing to do with metal, but bear with me!)
Turns out, he likes it! He now likes hardcore punk and has nothing
to do with Poop Harlot and the rest of those Nü Metal
bands in disguise. Now, one could introduce them to old Slayer.
Chances are, they'll like it. One cannot receive 100% results
in the conquering of the kids! *LMAO* But we, as fascists, must
rise to the occasion like Ron Jeremy. We -- shall -- conquer!
Satire is cool!
Mike D.
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